There and Back Again – Episode 2: Travis Scott and the Condition of Man

What happens when you leave church on Sunday morning and you have to live the week ahead in the world around us? The good, the bad, the happy, the sad and everything in between. What does it mean to live as a christian in this fallen world?

Join Pastor Chris Hull and Patrick Sturdivant as they dive into the topics that are happening around us every day. They’ll tackle pop culture and contemporary topics and have some fun times while they are at it.

They’ve survived to create another episode and this week their talking about something that happened right down the road from them, but has garnered national attention and had ripple effects throughout the world- the tragedy at Astroworld in November 2021. They’ll talk about the event, what happened, and how we can look at this tragedy as a Lutheran and what hope we have in a fallen world.

Hosts: Pastor Christopher Hull is the Senior Pastor of Zion Lutheran Church in Tomball, Texas and Patrick Sturdivant, Marketing and Development Executive for Higher Things is a member of Zion Lutheran Church in Tomball, Texas.

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